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dancerjodi ([personal profile] dancerjodi) wrote2004-01-07 08:47 am

Horny!

Brian spent some more time working on my bantha horns last night (we're working on a 'sexy bantha girl' outfit for me to wear so that I can lead him around in his Tuscan Raider getup). I cut out the pieces for the outfit on Monday, sewed them last night, and should be able to do the finishing touches (trim and try the thing on) tonight. This should be interesting :)

I was hoping to go to either Bottle Rocket last night or Man Ray tonight but I can feel the start of a cold coming on. Since I'd rather be healthy than sick for a month I'm going to pass on it so that I can drink tea, keep warm, and get to bed at a reasonable hour. Dammit, I'll make it there before I go back to school though! We'll be at Ceremony next Monday.

Arisia, who is going? What is happening there?


We're going to give it a chance and all, but usually I'd like to know what I'm getting for my $50 per person (not even a formal schedule, just a list of the kinds of things that will happen would be nice).

I know friends work really hard on this con but what happens there seems to be some mythical, guarded secret - all people can tell me is that "its a lot of fun". That's usually after they've asked us to volunteer. I'd like to actually experience the thing first before giving my time to it, you know?

Right now all that's advertised is a list of guests (most I haven't heard of) and The Dresden Dolls. I know at some point there will be a masquerade, perhaps a drum circle, presumably vendors and an art room. Presumably panels: but I don't want to spend the whole day sitting in a corner of the hotel waiting for the evening events if all panels have to do with Sci Fi Literature, Polyamory and Filking :).

We won't be staying at the hotel so we need to figure out how we're going to pull off the costume change thing (and knowing what's happening when is kind of important for figuring out what we're wearing when). There's no sense in being a bantha chick if I'm going to get bored after 20 minutes (if I'm unable to find an interesting panel or activity during the day) and want to go walking down Boylston Street (I'd be much more comfy doing that in my jeans).


I'm not expecting DragonCon or anything, I'm just kind of nervous about what we'll end up finding (paying $50 to hang out with friends in a hotel. well, normally I wouldn't do that kind of thing). I've definitely been spoiled :)

(Anonymous) 2004-01-07 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, if the daytime stuff will bore you at all, don't go. Come later at night, after 8pm and a good dinner, and do the wandering the hotel game and find people you know. Parties, people, costumes. There's way to manage changing (bathrooms), chances to stash stuff (friends, coatcheck, car?), and well. If that gets you hooked, great.

On the Other Devil, Yes, $50 is a lot, but that could be useful if you're at all interested in what the con offers. Movies, Art, Masquerade, Late Night Drumming, Late Night Dancing. There's a small dealer's room which requires a membership. Dealer's Row is run out of individual's rooms and generally does not.

Namaste.

Arisia

[identity profile] dancer.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
"Honestly, if the daytime stuff will bore you at all, don't go."

Right, but how will I know what the daytime stuff is, and if it will bore me or not if there's no list of what's going to happen? ;) I know that setting a schedule is tough but a general 'on Saturday this will happen', 'on Sunday this will happen' would be helpful.

"On the Other Devil, Yes, $50 is a lot, but that could be useful if you're at all interested in what the con offers. Movies, Art, Masquerade, Late Night Drumming, Late Night Dancing. There's a small dealer's room which requires a membership. Dealer's Row is run out of individual's rooms and generally does not."

I paid $50 and travelled to go to DragonCon, I think the amount is reasonable if there is stuff going on that I liked. The DC schedule wasn't set until a couple of weeks before the event, but there were lists of what was going to happen (tracks, panels, etc) so I knew that there would be lots to do. "Movies", what kind of movies? "Art", what kind of art? "Masquerade", when? I'd love to see this but don't want to spend the whole weekend there if the masquerade is the only thing I'm interested in. I knew that if I went to DC there was to be anime playing 24x7, that there was a British comedy track, a Star Wars Track, a Buffy the Vampire Slayer Track . . . all I know about Arisia is that there is some artist, some filker, some author and some band (that's not really enough to fill up a weekend, though).

My only point is, I'm going because I have friends involved and I've heard of them having a good time in the past so I'm giving it a chance. What's to motivate someone that doesn't know a thing about the con to spend $50 based on the little information on the web site?

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[identity profile] macropixi.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 10:22 am (UTC)(link)
In times past they have an anime room running pretty much 24/7.

They also show sci-fi movies
panels, anything from swordfighting sca stuff to poly to art, how to make costumes, write stories etc.

Masquarde, happens later usually on Saturday.
Art room... prof and non prof art, with art auction.
dealers room/row
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[identity profile] lensman.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
Dealer's Row is run out of individual's rooms and generally does not.


Actually this also requires membership they are just more lax about checking for them...

[identity profile] slickgothgurl.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
looking forward to seeing you at ceremony next week!

i think my headache is actually a sinus infection times a million. that would royally suck. but at least i have a dr's appt tomorrow.

hope you feel better soon.

[identity profile] snowwand.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
Tember said that the marketplace is a lot of fun. I'm also curious about the whole thing so hopefully someone will have the answers :)

Arisia

[identity profile] dancer.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
"Tember said that the marketplace is a lot of fun."

I'm sure it is, but why do I want to pay $50 to then shop if that's the extent of the daytime activities? :)

I know that can't be it, the expected 2000 people wouldn't go if that's all there was . . . I'd just like to know what else there will be too :)

We did pay $10 for a "con" in Framingham recently that was just a huge dealer's room with some celebs signing autographs and doing talks at a microphone - they advertised what it was though, we weren't expecting much else, and we were satisfied. I'd be pissed if I paid $50 and all I got was a sci-fi flea market :)
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[identity profile] lensman.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
We usually have much more than just a dealers room. :-) One of my favorites fell off the schedule this year. We'd routiely get "Crash" from Junkyard MegaWars and he'd run a mini version at the con.

There's also a large (they sold out all the space) art show.

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[identity profile] dancer.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
"We usually have much more than just a dealers room. :-) One of my favorites fell off the schedule this year. We'd routiely get "Crash" from Junkyard MegaWars and he'd run a mini version at the con."

I would have loved that, damn. I missed the Robot Wars that they had at DC because it was on Monday (and we flew out early that morning).

"There's also a large (they sold out all the space) art show."

I tend to think of the dealer's room and art show (or artist's room) as a given at a con - what I usually want to know is what *other* stuff there is too :)

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[identity profile] bratling.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 10:21 am (UTC)(link)
what schedule?

like jodi said, that's a problem. there is no schedule.

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[identity profile] snowwand.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
You still have to pay the 50 bucks to go to the marketplace? That is just crazy...

Guess I'll scratch arisia off of my list! lol...don't have a burning desire to go or the money to get in and still buy things
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[personal profile] nepenthedreams 2004-01-07 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
I used to go to Arisia (95-97) and I found that during the day I would go shopping - there are shopping floors where each vendor has a room, plus a whole ballroom of shopping. Some of the panels were fun, but I have never been much for panels. Playing samples of new games and hanging out in the consuite is always fun too. I also found that I'd spend all night awake and so would sleep for much of the morning.

I seem to remember they also had movie rooms, showing all anime, or all of some other genre.

[identity profile] tk7602.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
well, at dcon we spent most of our days in panels, so hopefully that will work out. know what sort of panels there will be would be kinda nice though :)

Arisia

[identity profile] dancer.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
"I used to go to Arisia (95-97) and I found that during the day I would go shopping - there are shopping floors where each vendor has a room, plus a whole ballroom of shopping. Some of the panels were fun, but I have never been much for panels. Playing samples of new games and hanging out in the consuite is always fun too. I also found that I'd spend all night awake and so would sleep for much of the morning."

Going early in the day would be fine if I knew there would be shopping *and* other stuff (like interesting panels). I want to try avoid being there and being bored out of my mind if all there is to interest me during the day is shopping :)

"I seem to remember they also had movie rooms, showing all anime, or all of some other genre."

These are things that all sound very nice - things that should be listed on a website. :)

I'm not really complaining I'm just very, very confused. If they want people to go to the con, shouldn't they advertise beyond "here's a con, its at this hotel, here's 5 people that will be here" and "there's great stuff, art, literature, movies, dancing"? I'd hope that a little more than one week before they con there would be some kind of general theme for events that are happening that they'd be able to share on the website.

I think I'm just to anal and organized for my own good sometimes - it gets me frustrated. I also feel bad for friends that are running around like chickens with their heads cut off right now in the planning :)
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[identity profile] lensman.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
If they want people to go to the con, shouldn't they advertise beyond "here's a con, its at this hotel, here's 5 people that will be here" and "there's great stuff, art, literature, movies, dancing"? I'd hope that a little more than one week before they con there would be some kind of general theme for events that are happening that they'd be able to share on the website.

I think I'm just to anal and organized for my own good sometimes - it gets me frustrated. I also feel bad for friends that are running around like chickens with their heads cut off right now in the planning :)


It's not just you we're very short staffed this year.... The person running the web is also filling in to run another dept.

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[identity profile] dancer.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 09:09 am (UTC)(link)
"It's not just you we're very short staffed this year.... The person running the web is also filling in to run another dept."

I know, this all sucks and I feel really bad for you guys.

Next year (after grad school) I'd actually have time to volunteer - once I can see what the con is like and if I enjoy it (which I'm guessing I would) I'd love to volunteer. I've wanted to help Tiggerette with things this month since I'm not in school but I haven't been able to figure out from her what she needs help with (she mentioned helping out *during* the con, but I'd really like to just go once to see what its like, first).

Now, could YOU all handle my organized, anal behavior next year? :)
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[identity profile] lensman.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
No problem We like our people to get to now the con as well... We'd like everyone to volenteer. and if by sunday you still think you might want to help make things better. I'll point you at the right people for next years. :-)

Now, could YOU all handle my organized, anal behavior next year? :)

*Must resist straight line...*, *Resistance Failing...* :-)

[identity profile] lillydrag.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
I would suggest that you keep your options open for leaving the hotel and strolling around. I found the day time hours a bit dull. I didn't find much appealing to me during the day except shopping, and when you're ready for lunch you may want to go outside the hotel. The restaurant there is extremely expensive if I recall and not good enough to justify the prices.

I'd save the fun outfits for night time.
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[identity profile] lensman.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
Well the Major events are posted at http://www.arisia.org/2004/events.html

The list of Programming items was supposed to have been posted. Hopefully soon, but as soon as I get it I'll let everyone know.

Arisia

[identity profile] dancer.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 08:53 am (UTC)(link)
"Well the Major events are posted at http://www.arisia.org/2004/events.html"

Thanks :) This wasn't there the last time I looked.

I'm just curious, how long have these ideas been out there? Like, I understand how coordinating people/space can be hard . . . but I'm guessing you guys knew for a while that the Higgins Folks would be doing classes of some sort or that Eric Raymond would be doing some kind of talk, or that RHPS would be happening. It may be good to list these general things on the site in the future to try and get people in (that haven't gone before, and don't know anyone involved to tell them what's going to happen).

Heh, and I thought that the poly panel wasn't happening this year ;)

"The list of Programming items was supposed to have been posted. Hopefully soon, but as soon as I get it I'll let everyone know."

You may want to post to the Arisia LJ community too, and let people know that the main events are posted. There's been only note of one panel and some gaming stuff on there (just another way to pass the word on and hopefully pull in more attendees).

I commend you and your team on all the work you do - I know it takes a lot of time and is stressful. I just feel bad that people I'd have assumed to know about Arisia (like, 501st members) hadn't heard of the con before (and pointing them to the website before today didn't provide any motivation for them to go).
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[identity profile] lensman.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 09:10 am (UTC)(link)
Well ESR has been on the site for months (though remind me later to tell you & brian in private about some of the back story), the three main guest of honor have been on there for about a year.

Basically the whole web site needs a MAJOR overhaul.... a lot of the info is there just not linked correctly or easy to find.

Heh, and I thought that the poly panel wasn't happening this year ;)

Heh, we've been fighting an uphill battle on a ton of DIS-information thats been put out there this year... (Off line I'll let you know my true feelings on some of this).

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[identity profile] lachesis.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
"Heh, and I thought that the poly panel wasn't happening this year ;)

Heh, we've been fighting an uphill battle on a ton of DIS-information thats been put out there this year... (Off line I'll let you know my true feelings on some of this)."

I'm curious about this as well... between the two mailing lists that talk about it; there's been a lot said.... as it were.

and J; when Skaven and I have gone in the past (I'm every year but one since 97, I think) we rarely shop there - we specifically go to see friends, as there's a lot of out of towners we dont see otherwise. that's why we go primarily at night; not too long, but long enough. then, on with the parties! Not that it helps you much, but late-mid afternoon was a good time for us; S would be in a larp and I could do drum circle/panels/etc.
I do hope you enjoy yourselves!

[identity profile] bratling.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 10:19 am (UTC)(link)
i'll be working columbine's table there, too.


it sounds like arisia is either (a) a bunch of fuckwits this year, or (b) are already operating near capacity, and so function on repeat business, not trying to get new business. repeats will come regardless.

...anyway, i stopped going to arisia years ago because i stopped being interested in getting drunk and partying. i hear they have panels though ;-)
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[identity profile] alabastard.livejournal.com 2004-01-07 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
We're actually going to Ceremony this week as well, I haven't been since the fall, and then only once.

Arisia hasn't been much fun the past two years, but for the Masquerade, the first year I went was great. Too much poly and fetish focus for me in the panels, but the roaming can be fun, what you make it.