Date: 2009-03-20 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christmasjedi.livejournal.com
That's awesome! I'm slightly peeved that they made it look like she always dresses like a RFT, but she couldn't have been wearing a more appropriate costume for their purposes, lol! I'm impressed with how nice they all were. They didn't make fun of her in the least.

Date: 2009-03-20 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benndragon.livejournal.com
Uh. Did we watch the same vid? Because they were making fun of her from the start - "Well, we don't have to call her a geek. . . but, some might want to call her geeky". That's both a a back-handed compliment and an insult of a subculture I hold dear (with those lovely sexist undertones to boot). Combined with talking over her "I like being called a geek", in that of-course-you-do-dear-pat-pat kinda way. Then there was "a convention you might have heard of, Comicon," followed by a rather condescending heh-heh.

I didn't really get much past that part, TBH.

Date: 2009-03-20 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthwk.livejournal.com
It's really no different than what we'd hear on a daily basis. It's only an insult if we choose to make it one, because, let's face it, we ARE geeks and we chose this. :)

As an edit, I would suggest this. If we're that upset about how mainstream sees us, then at the next convention after-party, refrain from putting on that "other" costume that perpetuates that "nerd/geek" perception. Dress to the nines instead. Put on that sharp suit or classy dress, take those extra 10-20 minutes to primp and preen, THEN go to the after-party. Make sure those camera crews are there. Make it a black-tie affair! :)
Edited Date: 2009-03-20 10:06 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-03-21 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benndragon.livejournal.com
My point was, they were very clearly being insulting to her in specific and geeks in general. Chosing to ignore it is fine, but saying it didn't happen is bogus.

As for your edit, dressing to the nines would work about as well as me putting on a suit and pretending to be a guy. I do look damn fine in a suit, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm female. I'm also certain that I'd be as comfortable with someone who only feels free to give me the time of day if I pretend I'm not a geek as with someone who only likes me when they think I'm a guy - I left high school behind a long time ago and feel no need to go back.

ETA: I should have said "that I present female" rather than "that I'm female" - it makes the meaning more clear.
Edited Date: 2009-03-21 05:13 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-03-20 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wereleopard.livejournal.com
Holy SHIT she's GORGEOUS!

I had no idea! :) And I see her a lot!

Date: 2009-03-20 12:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeditrilobite.livejournal.com
That sort of thing really pisses me off. Because what we do is something to be relegated and degraded to the extent that it is by these guys.

Date: 2009-03-20 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfiremj.livejournal.com
I DO love what they did with Mary Alice, that outfit and makeup were really stunning. They did a great job with the makeover.

On the other hand, they did a pretty piss poor job of the commentary. They were talking like us SW costumer women were like...undateable nerds who have no sense of fashion or beauty and we dress up allll the time. Yeah, whatever.

And I didn't like how they were making fun of her specifically throughout the vid, either. But hey, she got some nice perks for that. And lord knows we all appear in pics or vids occasionally where we get made fun of WITHOUT the benefit of a full free makeover so I guess kudos to Mary Alice. :-P

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